In Canada Case Specific Enquiry - Replacement documents, Amendments to documents and Verification of Status documents [Patrick Fox; IRCC; and Mark Myhre (BCPS)]
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Applicant Information
Name of applicant: Fox, Patrick Henry
Email address: f*****x@gmail.com
DOB of applicant: 1973-11-24
Country of birth: United States of America
Client ID number: 60028504
File number:
Telephone number:
Mobile number: 778-***-****
Type of application: Replacement documents, Amendments to documents and Verification of Status documents
Enquirer Information
Name of enquirer: Fox, Patrick Henry
Relationship to applicant: Applicant
Email address: f*****x@gmail.com
Telephone number:
Mobile number: 778-***-****
Consultant ICCRC number:
Enquiry:
I have no status is Canada. I am hoping to obtain a letter or some other document from IRCC clearly stating such, to submit to the BC Supreme Court in my criminal matter (I was convicted of criminal harassment and am currently appealing that conviction). My name is Patrick Fox (I used to go by the name Richard Riess), date of birth 1973-11-24. I have, and have provided the court, a copy of the FOSS-ATIP report (P-2017-77557) which clearly shows my country of birth as "United States of America" and citizenship "Unknown", but the court says it wants something more direct and conclusive.
Good day Patrick Henry Fox,
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Sincerely,
Carmelina, Agent 4164
Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada
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Good morning, Miss Brend.
I am forwarding you an email I recently received from IRCC. As you can see, in my original request to them (below), I was requesting a letter or some other documentation which clearly states I do not have status in Canada (unless, of course, they determine that I actually DO have status in Canada), so I can provide that to the court in my criminal case. You will notice I inform them of both my current legal name (Patrick Fox), my previous name (Richard Riess), and the Client ID number they assigned me back in 2008 - so there's no uncertainty about who I am. I also attached a copy of the ATIP report I had provided you previously.
The important parts of their response are:
- They say "We have verified the information you provided". So, they have verified that the information I provided (that I was born in the US and have no status in Canada) is true and correct.
- They say they are unable to assist me with my request, presumably because they only issue verification of status for people who actually have status.
Yet, Myhre keeps insisting "all the evidence he's seen supports the fact that I am a Canadian citizen", and the court denied my application to remove the probation condition prohibiting me from leaving BC because, as Justice Holmes said "much of my current situation is of my own doing" and she does not believe that me remaining in BC is causing me significant hardship.
If nothing else, I think this is going to make a hell of a book when it's done.
Sincerely,
Patrick Fox
Mr. Myhre:
Please feel free to add this to the collection of concrete evidence which supports my claim that I am not a Canadian citizen and do not have status in Canada. Allow me to highlight the relevant points:
- In my request to IRCC (below), I stated I was born in the US and do not have status in Canada;
- I provided them both my current legal name, Patrick Fox, and the name Richard Riess; I provided them the Client ID number they assigned to me in 2008; I provided them a copy of the ATIP report they had provided me previously - the same report I provided you and the court; so there could be no question about who I am and who the request pertains to;
- I told them WHAT I'm requesting and WHY I'm requesting it;
- In their response, they stated "We have verified the information you provided."
- They said they are unable to assist me with my request, presumably because "verification of status" is only for people who actually HAVE status.
Now, according to dictionary.reference.com, "verify" is defined as follows:
- 1. to prove the truth of, as by evidence or testimony; confirm; substantiate
- 2. to ascertain the truth or correctness of, as by examination, research, or comparison
- 3. to act as ultimate proof or evidence of; serve to confirm Law
- 1. to prove or confirm (an allegation).
- 2. to state to be true, especially in legal use, formally or upon oath.
They did not say they were "able to conclude", they said they "verified". They "verified" I was born in the US; they "verified" I have no status. You see, THIS is evidence; THIS is proof!
I'm anxious to hear how you're going to try to dispute THIS information.
And, finally, with respect to Steve Riess's DNA test, please let me know when that's done. Obviously, I'm going to be requesting a verifiable copy of the results so I can use that in my pursuits against DHS. So far, Mr. Riess has refused all of my requests for a DNA test but since he offered to provide that to you that'll be a bonus for me. And, at this point, since I have concrete evidence I am not his son and not a Canadian citizen, you're going to look extremely bad if you continue to fight me on this issue and DON'T follow through on the DNA test.
Good evening,
Patrick Fox
Hello Mr. Fox,
In my view, what exactly has been “verified” is at best ambiguous in Carmelina’s email. Given that we have contact with a person who states they are your father and you were born in Sudbury, a statement by you to a Maricopa Sheriff that you were born in Sudbury, a perjury conviction for claiming to have been born in the US and a document from the CBSA saying they verified your citizenship as Canadian in 2008, it is my view that something much more substantial than an ambiguous email will be required before you are able to prove you are a US citizen. But you are free to renew your application to the court any time and let Judge Holmes decide.
I would encourage you to embrace your Canadian citizenship and look for employment.
FYI, I have now left 3 voicemail messages for the person at IRCC I was referred to, with no response. Also, no response to my email inquiry. I will keep trying.
Mark Myhre
Good morning, Mr. Myhre.
You're funny.
- CBSA has never verified my citizenship as Canadian. The most they have said is "as far as we're concerned you have status". And the basis of that statement was the 10 year authorization by IRCC to enter and remain in Canada - which expired in May of last year. It seems strange to me that one law enforcement agency (CBSA) would refuse to provide you (a prosecutor) something in writing which states their belief that I am a Canadian citizen, if that would assist you in your prosecution.
- Exactly which part of IRCC's email is ambiguous? It seems quite clear to me and to the parties I've shown it to - except for you.
- Perhaps Steve Riess is mad that I "stole" his son's identity and lived under that name for 20-some years (including getting convicted of a felony). Perhaps he's been duped by Capuano, as you have. But why speculate? He offered to provide a DNA sample - take him up on it. If you don't it just makes it look like you know the results will come back negative and you're just being either vindictive or delusional.
- You most certainly do not have a statement from me to a Maricopa County Sheriff that I was born in Sudbury. You're stretching the facts quite a bit there.
- Again, the perjury conviction is not proof that I actually committed perjury. Why do you think the US has consistently NOT prosecuted me for illegal re-entry? They know that if there's another trial then I'm going to represent myself and I'm going to submit my proof of being born in the US and that's going to prove the perjury conviction is bad, and that's going to seriously harm public confidence in the justice system and DHS.
- I believe your hope with all of this is to get me to say I'm a Canadian citizen, so you and the court can save face. It's never going to happen. I didn't give in to DHS's pressure from 2007 - 2011, and I'm sure as hell not going to give in to you. I am a US citizen, by birth, and none of your delusional clinging to stuff that does not amount to "evidence" is going to change that.
- I have a US birth certificate. You claim it's another person's birth certificate and I changed my name to his name and assumed his identity. That's interesting. Isn't that exactly what I said I did with the name Richard Riess - yet, DHS and all the other justice system participants said that's a very contrived and unbelievable story. It amazes me how you people are so selective in what you claim/choose to believe.
- I do not expect the court is going to lift the prohibition on leaving BC, no matter what proof I provide. When I leave it's going to be because I was removed - not because the court allowed me to. Or, it might be because the probation gets vacated upon my appeal being granted. But you and the court cannot back down now - it would look very bad for the system and adversely affect public confidence in the system. But on the other hand, the more you keep insisting on fighting this the more irrational and delusional it makes you and the system look.
- I believe you will do everything you can to NOT get something definitive from IRCC. That is how you people think. You think that as long as you can maintain the "appearance" of doubt that will be sufficient. In a courtroom, maybe. But we don't live in a courtroom - we live in the real world. And your words and actions are going to be published for the world OUTSIDE the courtroom to read. Maybe the point of all of this is to prove to the real world (i.e. the world outside the courtroom) how corrupt and twisted the justice system and it's participants are. Has that not occurred to you?
Sincerely,
Patrick Fox
Mr. Fox,
I have now spoken with Mark Konrad at IRCC. He confirmed that the information you received from his Ministry via the FOI request is all there is. In his view, similar to that of the CBSA, the computer entries show that you made a claim to be born in the US, the IRCC looked into it and determined you were born in Canada.
I will not be following up with IRCC any further unless requested by Judge Holmes.
Mark Myhre
Great, do you have any proof of that? Or are they not willing to put that in writing either?
Patrick Fox
Mr. Konrad was not willing to put it in writing.
Would you happen to have Mr. Konrad's contact information so I can follow up with him? Or, in the alternative, may you ask him to contact me?
And, I hope you're still going to pursue the DNA test from Mr. Riess? Oh, wait, let me guess, you're going to say "in your view" it's not necessary in light of your conversation with Mr. Konrad. Predictable.
Are you willing to state in court that you spoke with Mr. Konrad and he told you "in his view, I was born in Canada"? If so, I would like to request another hearing so you can state that in open court.
Thanks,
Patrick Fox
I will not be giving you his contact information or asking him to contact you.
The DNA test is not necessary given that there are four other reasons to believe you are a Canadian citizen, and zero reasons to believe you are American.
I will say in court exactly what I said to you in my email.
Mark Myhre
Mm-hmm. I suppose there is no reason I can't just look up Mr. Konrad's information and contact him on my own.
Do you not see how this sudden change of events, on your part, just makes it look like you know the DNA test will come back negative, and you're just looking for a way out of the corner you've backed yourself into? By now, you should know I'm not going to drop it - I am going to verify whether this Mark Konrad exists and, if he does, I'm going to get an official, documented statement from him.
So, you've stated your case...I guess this conversation is done.
Thank you for the content.
Patrick Fox
I’ll remind you that I never requested or suggested a DNA test. That was your father’s idea. I have no concerns about the results of a test, it’s just that there is no public interest in spending money and diverting RCMP lab resources that are better spent elsewhere.
I don't think it matters whether YOU requested or suggested the DNA test. The time and cost of a paternity test is so negligible that obtaining it is irrelevant.
Why do you refer to Steve Riess as "your father"? THAT is another sign of delusional disorder. The belief that if you keep repeating something it will become true. I think you and Capuano have very much in common.
While typing this email I just heard back from Tamara at the Ministry of Social Development. My application has now been officially denied, based on my lack of status in Canada, as verified for them by IRCC. I will be receiving that letter from them in 2 days, and I will put it with the other letter I have from IRCC (not the email I forwarded you, an actual letter, received in the mail). It's so weird that the people YOU speak to at IRCC and CBSA claim "in their view" I'm a Canadian citizen; but everybody I, and every other person in the world speaks with say I am absolutely NOT a Canadian citizen and have no status in Canada.
Does it ever occur to you that I may already have a letter from IRCC which clearly and unequivocally states I have no status in Canada and that all of this is just to get you to say enough crazy, delusional stuff to publish, to show the world who you really are? You're not very good at realizing when you're being set up, are you?
As far as I'm concerned, this discussion is complete. Feel free to respond with more, if you wish, but I've gotten more from you today than I could have hoped for, so I'm satisfied. Thanks.
Most sincerely,
Patrick Fox
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